Walter Cronkite Joins the Defeatists: “That’s the way it is”
Walter Cronkite is channeling John Murtha– or worse. According to the AP, Cronkite said regarding Iraq: “”It’s my belief that we should get out now,” Cronkite said in a meeting with reporters.”
Cronkite is a defeatist and –frankly– he’s out of touch. He’s also a biased opinion. I recall hearing Cronkite in 1988 or 1989 on KLBJ-AM radio in Austin discuss Harrison Williams’ bust in the ABSCAM scandal. Williams was as Democrat as a yellow dog, but Cronkite called him –yep– “a Republican.” I called the radio station and got a fellow named Tony Rodriguez (I think he was news director). I told him what Cronkite had just done and told him to check it out– Harrison was a Democrat. I asked if there would be a correction. Rodriguez told me that Cronkite’s commentary was national, he couldn’t correct it, but he thanked me for telling him. “You know,” Rodriguez said, “people think the news media is biased.” No, I replied, I think Cronkite is biased. And I told Rodriguez that he could correct it. Oh well.
Cronkite is proud of his role in the Tet Offensive. He told the American people the Vietnam war was unwinnable. Cronkite, it seems, is trying to relive the high point of his broadcast career. Unfortunately, not only is Iraq not Vietnam, the only Tet out there is his “tet”ched perception.
UPDATE: Thanks Michelle. As it is, Cronkite seems to be an anglicized version of “krankheit.”
Perhaps one day some interviewer will confront Cronkite with the record of his treason in the Tet reporting. Perhaps. And then again, pigs may fly.
Comment by Becker — 1/15/2006 @ 8:59 pm
Dan Rather would be so proud that his mentor is still peddling Kool Aid.
Comment by Art Fougner — 1/15/2006 @ 9:04 pm
Glad to hear Cronkite’s comments. Now I know for sure that we are winning. SEA Class of 68
Comment by J Ware — 1/15/2006 @ 9:12 pm
this guy should be hired by Al Jazeera they could promise him a lifetime contract and not have to pay too much he could give Al Jazeera a tremendous buzz
Comment by mhw — 1/15/2006 @ 9:13 pm
It is amazing how we really do not know the the facts of the Vietnam war. You correctly quote Cronkite and seem to think he made the correct call at Tet. Guess again - Tet was a massive defeat for the Vietcong, 70 % were killed in ~ 3 months! Did you know that America never lost a set-piece battle in Vietnam and that all American forces withdrew 2 years before the fall of SV. To me his miscall at Tet will be his sad legacy. EDIT COMMENT: Wrong read on me. Cronkite was dead wrong about Tet.
Comment by Moose Hagopian — 1/15/2006 @ 9:15 pm
Well, the press are trying to relive Watergate, so Uncle Walter isn’t the only one tetched
Comment by NahnCee — 1/15/2006 @ 9:21 pm
In about 1996 or ‘97 I was a student at the Walter Cronkite School of Journalism and Telecommunications at Arizona State. My classroom was visited one day by Cronkite who shared some stories (most concerned Robin Leech (sic?) of “Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous” oddly enough) and then there was time for some Q&A. I was able to get called on, and asked what effect he felt the internet would have on journalism, as it gave individuals their own low-cost printing press. In a nutshell his answer was that it would have no effect on journalism. Seems that he may have been wrong on that one too.
Comment by rdl — 1/15/2006 @ 9:45 pm
Walter Cronkite should be looked at like Neville Chamberlain except that Chamberlain did his white flag routine because of political naiveness. Who really knows why Cronkite ran up the white flag and helped set up the butchery in Viet Nam and Cambodia that followed. Millions died because of the way the MSM portrayed the war, its nothing to be proud of that’s for sure. The MSM is for the most part a 5th column of traitors hoping for the defeat of its enemy the United States.
Comment by ron nord — 1/15/2006 @ 9:59 pm
Walter Cronkite: Still stuck on stupid …. The part that Michelle and Austin didn’t mention is that the ‘68 Tet offensive was a major military defeat for the Viet Cong, not for the South or for the US. With the VC beaten and broken after the offensive, the North Vietnamese would have aba…
Trackback by Small Town Veteran — 1/15/2006 @ 10:02 pm
I’ve been cataloguing his problems in the aerospace area: “Sometimes Cronkite’s aerospace history judgment has gotten even more questionable, as exemplified by his endorsement of the loony-tune book “Incident at Sakhalin - The True Mission of KAL Flight 007″, by Michel Brun, a retired French pilot. Brun argues that the 1983 Korean airliner shootdown was a hoax perpetuated by the CIA, during which American jets destroyed the civilian airliner and later engaged in a bloody dogfight with Soviet interceptors, an air battle both sides agreed to cover up. “Despite the egregiously crackpot nature of the theory and the sloppy and cooked-up ‘facts’, Cronkite allowed (I verified this with his staff) his words to be published on the book jacket: “This book has importance far beyond its sensational and dramatic revelations of a Cold war intelligence ploy that turned into a military engagement - an aerial battle that could easily have escalated into World War III.” The book portrays US government officials as cold-blooded murderers as well as secret plotters and liars - but without any evidence that any serious aerospace historian considers valid. But that indictment was endorsed by Cronkite.”
Comment by JimO — 1/15/2006 @ 10:04 pm
Oh, swell, now they’ll put Cronkie’s mug on the cover of the AARP mag.
Comment by Edie Goodwin — 1/15/2006 @ 10:09 pm
I suppose it’s too late, but Uncle Waltie should read Bill Roggio’s blog more frequently. We may well be seeing a “withdrawal” from Iraq: unfortunately, for “The Most Trusted Moonbat in America,” it’s Al Qaeda that’s apparently pulling out. http://billroggio.com/
Comment by Mark Jaeger — 1/15/2006 @ 10:09 pm
I can’t get your trackbacks to work. I’ve linked from Walter Cronkite: Still stuck on stupid. An excerpt::
We were still winning when I left in ‘72.
Comment by Bill Faith — 1/15/2006 @ 10:10 pm
Thank God we no longer live in an era where one irresponsible man like this has such an outrageous amount of power.
Comment by Dean Esmay — 1/15/2006 @ 10:11 pm
Het Austin, I agree! Here’s my post on it: CRONKITE: WRONG IN 1968; WRONG NOW! AP/Breitbart: Cronkite said one of his proudest moments came at the end of a 1968 documentary he made following a visit to Vietnam during the Tet offensive. Urged by his boss to briefly set aside his objectivity to give his view of the situation, Cronkite said the war was unwinnable and that the U.S. should exit. … Former CBS anchor Walter Cronkite, whose 1968 conclusion that the Vietnam War was unwinnable keenly influenced public opinion then, said Sunday he’d say the same thing today about Iraq. … “It’s my belief that we should get out now,” Cronkite said in a meeting with reporters. Here are the facts: (1) WE WON THE TET OFFENSIVE; (2) We had NO COMBAT TOOPS in Vietnam as of 3/29/73, and South Vietnam didn’t fall until 1975, and THEN, it ONLY FELL because DEMOCRAT DOVES IN CONGRESS - like Kennedy and McGovern, (egged on by doves like Cronkite and Kerry and Fonda) - PULLED THE PLUG ON FINANCIAL SUPPORT OF OUR ALLY: THE SOUTH VIETNAMESE! Today’s doves - Kennedy, Kerry and Cronkite (YUP: IT’S THE SAME OLD TIRED CREW, TOO!) - WOULD HAVE US DO TO THE IRAQIS WHAT WE DID TO THE SOUTH VIETNAMESE. Instead of the South Vietnamese being as free ansd as rich as South Koreans, they are as tyrannized and poor as the NORTH Koreans. MEANWHILE: the Vietnamese Marxists who tyrannize their own people are NOW BEGGING for the US “CAPITALIST PIGS” to invest in their backwards impoverished nation. WELL, IF IT WASN’T FOR THE VIETCONG - AND THEIR WILLING ALLIES IN THE DEMOCRAT PARTY, (FOLKS LIKE KENNEDY AND KERRY AND CRONKITE) - THE VIENAMESE COULD HAVE HAD ALL THAT USA INVESTMENT STARTING IN 1965! Sh-t: by now they’d be as rich as the JAPANESE! MY POINT: The oldtimers in the Left simply don’t get it: they were wrong then and they are wrong now. It’s long passed time they just shut the eff up. http://astuteblogger.blogspot.com/2006/01/cronkite-wrong-in-1968-wrong-now.html
Comment by reliapundit — 1/15/2006 @ 10:38 pm
As a senior citizen I took part in a seminar on Vietnam at the University here; simply just to find out what happened. The teacher Dr. T. Harri Baker, a staunch Democrat, concluded by saying that the Viet Cong felt that they lost the Tet offensive. We felt we didn’t win but since our aim was containment, we won because communism never expanded after that.
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Science fiction author L. Neil Smith had a character who was a TV anchor with a mustache and strange hair. His name was “Voltaire Malaise”. He was the villain. Regards, Ric
Comment by Ric Locke — 1/15/2006 @ 11:08 pm
Why hasn’t Walter Cronkite ever been exposed as being totally wrong about the Tet offensive ? For that matter why was John Kerry never exposed as being wrong about all the outrageous claims he made about all our troops being war criminals etc….After all, his testimony before that committee investigating these claims did come to the conclusion that there was nothing to his claims.
Comment by lizwez — 1/15/2006 @ 11:09 pm
This particular post would have been better headlined “That’s the way we were” than “That’s the way it is” A lot of journalism consists of a)developing a world view early on and b)spending the rest of your career re-writing it. It seems that Walter is doing just that.
Comment by Paul Danish — 1/15/2006 @ 11:21 pm
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Old Crank Wants to Abandon Iraq to Fascism I hear that a self-important old crank who people used to think was important because he read the news for a living wants us to abandon the mission in Iraq. My God I’m glad …
Trackback by Dean's World — 1/15/2006 @ 11:58 pm
Where was Uncle Walter’s review of “defeat and/or exit” as he reported in WW2? Hmm… didn’t happen? A fool and his money soon part and for him the money was his honor. Thank God for the internet & blogs like this.
Comment by MIKE — 1/16/2006 @ 12:00 am
And, remember, Cronkite said on Larry King that “Osama bin Ladin’s Pre-Election Comeback Special” was a Karl Rove Production.
Comment by Greg Cable — 1/16/2006 @ 12:44 am
Poor Ol’ Uncle Walt… From Most Trust to So Busted in just over 30 years. So sad.
Comment by Kiril Kundurazieff — 1/16/2006 @ 1:40 am
Don’t forget his role during the Iranian hostage crisis, when, by reiterating the number of days of captivity at the end of every broadcast, he helped increase the bargaining power of the Iranians and made things even more difficult for the U.S. government. (Not that the Carterites needed much help in screwing things up.)
Comment by James DeLong — 1/16/2006 @ 2:08 am
One more predictable conclusion with Walter’s big-time journo disposition. Time and again he’s stated the evils of Christianity. And I grew up thinking of him as god-like.
Comment by Steevo — 1/16/2006 @ 3:03 am
Bush and Reps and all pro-democracy folk need to relive Vietnam. Of course it was “winnable” — build bases and stay there for 15 years until 1989 (MORE than 15 years ago!) until the commies collapse. It was NOT winnable “without more casualties” — and this is the dirty secret of all anti-war folk. Win without death or don’t fight. Cronkite should be asked if politicians are responsible for the results of their policies — like, if Bush is responsible for Afghanistan increasing its poppy growth and heroin export, even though Bush is against it. When he says yes, politicians are responsible, he should be asked if newsMAKERS are responsible. He should agree. Then he should be asked if HE feels responsible for accepting SE Asian genocide after the US followed HIS policy. There were mistakes (like the involuntary servitude; like My Lai) in Vietnam. Like in all wars. Clinton avoided all such mistakes in Rwanda — by accepting genocide. Cronkite and the anti-war folk supported genocide instead of war. Both choices mean death; but those were the two real choices. And the UN supports genocide in Darfur, instead of war. I remain outraged.
Comment by Tom Grey - Liberty Dad — 1/16/2006 @ 3:51 am
Never let them forget that 2 million died at the hands of the Khmer Rouge when we pulled out of Viet Nam. There is a price for treasonous “Cut and Run” rhetoric. It’s time someone held him accountable for the things he’s done.
Comment by Mac — 1/16/2006 @ 4:48 am
One thing about elderly defeatists like Cronkite, Murtha, Pelosi, and Reid is that they’re all wealthy and very well protected, so they think that forcing a surrender in Iraq will have no effect on them personally. Idiots.
Comment by Tom W. — 1/16/2006 @ 5:25 am
One of the nicest things in this burhaha regarding Cronkite is that most of today’s younger set (under 30) actually have NO idea who he even is……those 30-40 might remember the “old guy” on TV who had the fine voice. At 63, I remember him well….for his defection on Vietnam. How can Kerry, Cronkite and so many more still feel themselves right? Duke
Comment by Duke of DeLand — 1/16/2006 @ 5:43 am
Cronkite is a fool. He wrote a column for awhile and indicated that the US should not have an independent military. Our military, according to Cronkite, should be under the control of the UN. He was never held responsible for his comments during Vietnam and the thousands of deaths that resulted from his policy. Say goodnight, Waltie.
Comment by Kate — 1/16/2006 @ 6:07 am
you guys are kidding, right? tet showed we couldn’t defeat a popular isurgency. the thing you dumbass wingers don’t understand is that the politicians lied about vietnam, and they have lied about iraq. cluck all you want, you can’t make bushies lies true.
Comment by big johnny — 1/16/2006 @ 6:32 am
TO: Austin Bay RE: Cronkite He’s just trying to relive his ‘glory days’, when he brought down LBJ and, aiding and abetting the enemy, the victory of the Viet Cong/North Vietnamese. Regards, Chuck(le)
Comment by Chuck Pelto — 1/16/2006 @ 6:48 am
Moose post above is correct he lied to the American people and portrayed Tet as a victory for the comunist. When in truth it was a bitter defeat. The Vc were destroyed never to pose a serious threat again. I will never forgive Crankcase for his lies.
Comment by Jack Hamilton — 1/16/2006 @ 7:14 am
Does anyone have an E-Mail address for Walter? At long last, I would like to respond to him.
Comment by Walter E. Wallis — 1/16/2006 @ 8:04 am
The media has never gone back and looked at how in God’s name Tet was so horribly, traitorously misreported in the press. That says a lot. In fact, I would bet most of the media doesn’t even realize they misreported the Tet Offensive, and those that do know wouldn’t admit it.
Comment by TallDave — 1/16/2006 @ 8:10 am
If the White House has lost Cronkite, they’ve lost CBS News.
Comment by weffiewonj — 1/16/2006 @ 8:26 am
Why do we call liberals “the Peace Movement” when they always support dictators and the result is genocide? Does America want to see wholesale slaughter in Iraq, AFTER we won the war? Whose side is the Women’s Movement on? Does NOW want to see all the Iraqi women who voted slaughtered? So much for women’s suffrage. These liberal only have ONE agenda, Hate America and Freedom.
Comment by JoeS — 1/16/2006 @ 9:11 am
Walter lost me a long time ago. A man was in Europe in the German winter offensive laster called the Battle of the Bulge. America forces were surprised, lost many casualties, and suffer the destruction of an entire division. However, the Germans were thrown back and it was an American victory. Walter and the rest of the media so proclaimed. Fast forward to 1968 and Tet. The enemey surprised our military in the field again. However our loses were not even near as great and again we stood upon the contested ground again losing none when the smoke cleared. This time though, Walter and the rest of the media proclaimed it a defeat. The rationale, if fitted to that fight in 1944, would have been the same standard. That’s when the man and the likes of him, lost me. For others in the business who did not witness the events of WWII I could understand, but Walter was there covering the events and can not claim ignorance.
Comment by Don — 1/16/2006 @ 9:14 am
Its always amusing to behold a geopolitical worldview fashioned with all the nuance of a Superbowl halftime. All zoom and boom, while in Washington Dick Cheney’s fellow embusqués plot another war for oil and Israel. EDITOR COMMENT: Commenter, do you have proof that Cheney is engaged in a war plot “for oil and Israel”? Your phrase smacks of hateful anti-Semitism, which is never amusing. If you do have proof of your allegation, please provide it, otherwise this comment will come down. Well, a day and a half later, no proof. This will come down tomorrow.
Comment by ats — 1/16/2006 @ 9:42 am
I share the low regard of Cronkite expressed here. Nevertheless, it’s worth keeping in mind why he got away with his undermining. At the time I was fully aware that the Tet attacks were repulsed, but I was surprised that the Viet Cong could have mounted them in the first place. Why my surprise? Because the government had fostered expectations that our Vietnam intervention would be a complete cakewalk. (The boys will be home by Christmas, light at the end of the tunnel, etc.) Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld were around at the time and there is no excuse for them not to have learned from this. If the public does not support action against an Iranian/Islamist nuke (more important imo than the Iraq invasion was), history will not be kind to the deficient political leadership of the current war.
Comment by gs — 1/16/2006 @ 9:55 am
Cronkite, Rather, Fonda, Kerry, Kennedy, Murtha, et al, in a perfect world would all be long dead now, executed for treason. When we lost the will to punish traitors we lost the will to save our country.
Comment by Improbulus Maximus — 1/16/2006 @ 10:01 am
>Nevertheless, it’s worth keeping in mind why he got away with his undermining. At the time I was fully aware that the Tet attacks were repulsed, but I was surprised that the Viet Cong could have mounted them in the first place. Why my surprise? Because the government had fostered expectations that our Vietnam intervention would be a complete cakewalk. (The boys will be home by Christmas, light at the end of the tunnel, etc.) >Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld were around at the time and there is no excuse for them not to have learned from this. GS, where have you been? Ever since 2003, the president, vice-president, secretaries of state, and secretary of defense have repeatedly stated that the war against terrorism would take a long time and that signs of victory would be unlike anything we might recognize from previous conflicts. Wrt Iran, diplomacy has been the preferred tool since 2000. Every indication of Iran’s intransigence in the face of this diplomacy has been publicized. Their stated desire to wage war in the Middle East is well-known. No one in the current government is making any pie-in-the-sky pronouncements about easy solutions. If they are, please point them out to me. MakeMineRed
Comment by MakeMineRed — 1/16/2006 @ 12:33 pm
Walter Cronkite can only welcome Jennings, Browkaw, Koppel, and Rather into the Dinosaur graveyard.Hollow bones, hollow words, tired bones tired words.Tired words and ideas that have been said so many times that no one listens anymore.
Comment by ratso ferrari — 1/16/2006 @ 2:21 pm
Walter tries to rise from the dinosaur graveyard but his words and ideas are stale. His leftist viewpoints are as brittle as his dinosaur bones.He thinks he is speaking for the majority but no one is watching or listening to him.
Comment by ratso ferrari — 1/16/2006 @ 2:37 pm
Is Walter going to show up at my door next week to tell me that I’m the winner of the Publisher’s Clearing House Sweepstakes? Is it that the Walter your talking about? Oh, I’m sorry. I think Ed had a better understanding of geopolitics. That’s why I always get them mixed up. And I trusted Ed more when he said I could be a winner. Glenn
Comment by Glenn Schnittke — 1/17/2006 @ 1:49 am
Walter Cronkite Joins the Defeatists: “That’s the way it is†Cronkite is proud of his role in the Tet Offensive. He told the American people the Vietnam war was unwinnable. What he did with his inaccurate false report directly can be related to thousands upon thousand of unecessary deaths. …
Trackback by The Absurd Report — 2/8/2006 @ 1:38 am
Walter Cronkite Joins the Defeatists: “That’s the way it is†Cronkite is proud of his role in the Tet Offensive. He told the American people the Vietnam war was unwinnable. What he did with his inaccurate false report directly can be related to thousands upon thousand of unecessary deaths. …
Trackback by The Absurd Report — 2/8/2006 @ 1:38 am
As one who fought in combat as an engineer in Europe in WW II and whose wife served the boys from Bastogne as a captain nurse I hink most or nearly all of the above expressions and position are a bunch of bull… Indo China was trying to remove themselves from colonialism. In Iraq we are outright invaders. We have a “mercenary military” today. All troopers enlisted or took a commission for; pay, travel, adventure, schooling, citizenship or high retirement. Pay, allowances, bonuses and death benefits are rediculously high. Each death is worth near 1/2 million dollars to the beneficiaries. Who can put a cost factor to the sick, lame and lazy? Over 1/3 of current troopers are claiming mental problems which will grow and double with time Keep up the good work.
Comment by Willard D. Gray — 6/20/2006 @ 8:01 pm
WALTER CRONKITE’S JOURNALISM WAS EXCELLENT.
CRONKITE LEAVES BEHIND A GOOD LEGACY.
CRONKITE POSITIVELY INFLUENCED OTHERS.
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SCANDALS! SCANDALS! SCANDALS!
DANGER! DANGER! DANGER!
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McConnell is correct: Bush applying pressure (continuously criminally stalking Margie Schoedinger) purposefully to force Schoedinger to commit suicide does in fact constitute murder where it culminated in her death.
Bush’s method of murdering Schoedinger cannot exist in a vacuum: he must have murdered other people in the same way.
During Bush’s presidency, of course Bush would have desired to kill people whom he hated or get them out of his way. Insofar as Bush was clearly capable of murdering Schoedinger—even in “broad daylight”—and is clearly capable of getting away with it, in consideration of common sense and the laws of human nature, Bush of course murdered numerous people in the disgusting way he murdered Schoedinger. One can examine public information; in various situations where people who sought to oppose or disadvantage Bush ever so frighteningly ended up “committing suicide”—specifically—Bush murdered them just like he murdered Schoedinger. For example, Bush murdered James Howard Hatfield by continuously criminally stalking Hatfield to the point that Hatfield could not get away from it—purposefully to force Hatfield to commit suicide—and Hatfield committed suicide in desperation to escape. However, the vast majority of such scandalous cases will never come out (the grisly details are typically hard to substantiate). A prosecutor really can lawfully charge a former president with murdering one or more people in the disgusting way Bush murdered Schoedinger. The American people unfortunately live in a world where evil presidents can murder any number of people—figuratively—with a wave of a magic wand and get away with it.
(There are thousands of copies of the information above on the Internet. Please feel free to go to any major search engine, type “GEORGE W. BUSH IS AN EXTREMELY DANGEROUS CRIMINAL STALKER AND SERIAL KILLER” or “George W. Bush continuously criminally stalked Margie Schoedinger to the point that she could not get away from it, and she committed suicide in desperation to escape: he murdered her” or “George W. Bush applying pressure (continuously criminally stalking Margie Schoedinger) purposefully to force Schoedinger to commit suicide does in fact constitute murder where it culminated in her death” or “George W. Bush murdered James Howard Hatfield by continuously criminally stalking Hatfield to the point that Hatfield could not get away from it—purposefully to force Hatfield to commit suicide—and Hatfield committed suicide in desperation to escape,” hit “Enter,” and readily find hundreds of copies.)
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Andrew Wang
(a.k.a. “THE DISSEMINATING MACHINE”)
B.S., Summa Cum Laude, 1996
Messiah College, Grantham, PA
Lower Merion High School, Ardmore, PA, 1993
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